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" It's a battle at the shore for the best musical legacy this sound check Jon -- and today on the show is New Yorkers head viewed this Jersey shore. Or perhaps the beaches of Long Island the summer. We'll ask which one offers the best soundtrack for the nation and the world. And a little bit later here is -- violinist Nadia Salerno Sonnenberg joins us to talk about interpreting Gershwin parts of confused fill -- in her new record. But first if you're relaxing on the Long Island beaches your summer soundtrack might include public enemy. This is one of the most famous hip hop groups of all time and they hail from Roosevelt Long Island. But if you're on the Jersey shore. The --"

" That is the whole -- for sugar -- this bands from Englewood New Jersey made history with this song it was -- first singles hit the top forty charts back in 79. So today we've decided to hold the musical. Quite on the sands of New Jersey and Long Island which one is home to the best musical talent. Time for another edition so. Yeah."

" And joining me here in the studio to fly the flag of Long -- blow up pop music critic for New Year's Day and in the garden state corner and joining us by phone is -- on new artists and music and talk radio program every Friday evening. On W offend you in Jersey City. To both of you welcome and no throwing sandal."

" I and New Jersey or Long Island which is better."

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" This is particularly at a contest and I really on the phone doing that is unbelievable."

" You have somehow yes it agreed to do this so go."

" Absolutely look were injured the represent right here I mean there is -- Find land in the garden stage I want to let. You jurors what is it about security. It's. It's. It's a brotherhood it's the sisterhood it is. -- is an amazing. Team with that. Main thing. On an amazing creative talent. And from everything arts and sciences everything. Anna -- go I mean. I can't believe we're disgusted silent. You know."

" What are you ready to take on New York City is that the talent."

" Am ready to take on. So Long Island although I understand that. Glenn is also able to include Brooklyn and."

" Wayne well now that's that's something we're gonna talk about in a little bit but but but Glenn. You know. It is New Jersey I mean you know -- can point to. Frank Sinatra for the oldies. Bruce Springsteen for the classic rockers -- look tango for the indie crowd. What can Long Island -- well."

" You've been without Brooklyn and queens which you know I could really use because there's a whole thing about that went. Long Island has a lot of diversity and I'd argue it has a lot more diversity -- Jersey's biggest stars. So we've got hip hop we've got John coal trains jazz class that's. We've got the hot dance single of the summer we've got Jones said we've pretty much cut. Everything we've got a little bit of every so you're gonna claim John culture. I'm gonna claim that John Coltrane wrote a love supreme in his -- hills house."

" Before he died he liked -- on Long Island but he does is point to Long Island to get like three years there and that is -- buried. Well -- don't know -- were a couple years later John Coltrane was buried this week we got beat up paper it buried here tail on me to do that."

" Iowa here's here's John Coltrane. Claimed by Long Island can equally be claimed by Philadelphia and perhaps even North Carolina as well but. Blamed Jambo and the Long Island music hall of Famer claiming him as their."

" a classic recording wherever he was living eroded John Coltrane a love supreme. He spent his final years in Dix Hills Long Island there are plans afoot to actually landmark house where where he lived at the end of his life. And so Long Island claiming COLT trained for there their part in this sound check smackdown -- again -- is here that pop music critic for Newsday. To run on her list has a jazz comeback and it's a pretty good one."

" Dizzy Gillespie the father of Latin jazz in this class."

" Dizzy Gillespie. -- take super on the how how big -- contribution has a New Jersey made suggest."

" It's at least we are -- huge contributor to -- You know conflict got two out base via."

" Wayne Shorter. Blue note record."

" That Englewood Cliffs like a hundred. Chess recordings damn there."

" Eat you know I don't know the Long Island Kennedy that claim quite the same clan -- what do you think what -- got."

" I think -- you've got me on jabs and you know you've you've got them this brings the -- and Sinatra but. You know you have a very strong. 345. But we've got to -- so it's not a part of her lineup is good that you're saying that your lineup from top to bottom yeah you're number nine hitter is still strong couple of and still farm club results for him out. The sites are that allow John Coltrane because he did live in Long Island at the end of disliked but then I'm gonna take away Lou Reed. -- man who was born in Long Island you know doesn't really is I mean you gotta. I'll give you water the other you can have with -- and I think when people choose where they live. They don't really choose where their -- Well but people and this is one of the things -- that has struck me about a lot of the New Jersey artists is they really do represent you know -- apple. -- not just Springsteen. And."

" Now I mean he was he was actually at the bottle -- like I can do that's what he did you know taking out Springsteen -- and -- do this completely eliminating those guys. And still. And still like mr. gamble all of us here and -- it."

" I -- it I mean you know I I exceeded the Long Island music Hall of Fame."

" Because apparently one of the founders says we want Long Island could feel good about itself that it really you."

" So it's really that really."

" Let's -- she's calling your your whole part of the country Q --"

" Well you know what would you watch for what you got -- chill like everybody knows. -- is the big -- from long Long Island but again born in the Bronx okay."

" If there is just someone who would actually born at all Long Island lived in Long Island."

" And had that big -- career."

" Well sought to use -- along and I'll tell -- born raised. Looms pretty much down the street from where. -- some -- and where public enemy was was first put together sure and so yet. Let's we're gonna take a bunch calls later -- Jared from Brooklyn is on the line with us now and is sort of going right to the heart of the matter. Janet are our two combatants are talking about their clean up hitters Springsteen and Billy jolt what do you think."

" Well that was my comment that I. First of -- or Britain says Lawrence sheets with these kind of things. Together throughout poultry and Gillespie and start. Splitting hairs consistent since we've -- if you if you didn't match. The two biggest stars against each other Springsteen and the result. Turbulence. And the story why. I just think he's better."

" I don't think it's a matter of opinion. Well we're we're talking about the favorite sons and Bruce Springsteen from Jersey. The -- has become an icon. New Jersey Bruce Springsteen but long."

" One as a favorite son is well back."

" And I think there there the few favorite sons Bruce Springsteen from New Jersey village -- from Long Island and Glen again -- from Newsday suit -- our radio -- from WS venue calling Long Island cute and here in this song Bruce Billy jewel is sort of calling out New Jersey. Who needs a house in Hackensack he had only get for your money."

" I can't -- know you know at least."

" Restricting can drive -- car."

" At least -- Oslo. A really drives these race cars that don't really you know steer well. But you know. I think that you I think that the Long Island musical -- idea of promoting Long Island the good thing it's. We recognize. That -- inferiority. They sent the New York. Futures it is not self aware enough to recognize that there. Are written on it yeah it."

" A program against personal loss."

" New Jersey inferiority complex so deeply ingrained that you don't even acknowledge it the way the healthy people of Long Island. If I can restate Atlanta went replaced."

" You know we we do we've got our share of guilt that's for sure but not enough. You know and the that we don't have enough of them and superiority complex that certainly could talk how works."

" You know in the shadow of the B I'll look Manhattan there's no way we just got whom many -- I mean too many. You know."

" I'm not sure where you're going next with this that I mean there's there's some markets we haven't even addressed artist that has sold. More than delete -- Consultant who's told that a hundred million. Albums more than Bruce Springsteen who do. Became -- 120 million dollars. So what million pounds. We've got the super star Eva songstress. Whitney Houston."

" It's only she should let you get. What you're getting. And does not. And how well you know her she -- the major issue as an Alpine which isn't even on a map anywhere."

" I well if we're gonna go simply by number of records sold is that is I mean you know."

" Okay dead that your Europe Italy right nobody certain Whitney Houston ship and made any kind of contributions to the popular music that are out pulled out one back there. Too late uses."

" News."

" And is no Whitney Houston. Representing New Jersey in our sound check smackdown this -- that is -- so Long Island have the diva of its own with lots of records. Record sales and though."

" Well we do have Mariah Carey who was born and raised in Limon but. And I didn't even put her on my list because Hugh has lived on the -- a long time. Like well I mean well I wasn't gonna play against Atlanta. I have. Without errors you don't really even meter seas raid since I've been -- number one hits and anyone other than The Beatles. You know which is -- them Whitney Houston more than Whitney Houston. Right I'm gonna guess. It's a little bit out. Actually back."

" Mariah Carey or Whitney Houston both Long Island and New Jersey claiming their big selling Teva as their own and wear -- on the centric smackdown debating the musical merits of the Jersey shore in Long Island two of the places that New Yorkers go to to escape. The heat and humidity that we're experiencing today -- bronze with us on the line radio host WFAN -- Jersey City. And Glen again -- pop music critic for Newsday on Long Island here with me in our studio."

" Check out today's subject line. I went online to the Long Island music Hall of Fame. And looked at the inductees. How is New Jersey match this list George Gershwin Aaron Copeland Tony Bennett Simon and Garfunkel run DMC."

" The answer is they don't Long Island wins this musical horse race by a mile and was promptly disqualified for cheating."

" For the rest of the story visit the -- WNYC dot more."

" And while you're there or leave a comment who's got the better music New Jersey or Long Island you can also call us."

" 212433. WNYC. 4339692. -- that Long Island music Hall of Fame that's a pretty righteous list."

" But -- from Brooklyn and queens. Yes and that's that's where the definition gets in the way because. If you were looking at the realities. It's Brooklyn and queens are on the same island as Long Island it's the whole thing -- physically it is one that yes governments believe right. Who knew the governments that messed things up but. That's good division becomes -- on -- operatives on site for so you."

" Art representing NASA on -- that suburban Long Island as opposed to the the two urban counties that are physically on the right okay."

" I think that's there I think the Long Island musical fame as impressive as that list is."

" You know it's. You have to give those a lot of those people to listen via our let's cut -- That's I mean they genuinely were what they claim to be the best unknown band in the world you spell back in the Senate -- unknowns still unknown. All right let's check in in the control room with Joe Meyer are centric producer who's been monitoring the comments as they've begun to pour in jolt."

" John if there's a trend going on on the sound check page right now it is a backhanded compliment to both New Jersey. And so on -- Connie from New Jersey -- says Billy -- a strike against Long Island but then Whitney Houston is a strike against terrorism. Franken Brooklyn says mark Allen has better hip -- everything else in Jersey is better relatively speaking of course I mean -- New Jersey for -- And -- finally Maggie from New Jersey is willing to play partisan here she says New Jersey has its -- up on guitarists. She mentions Tony Mottola Bucky it's rally and most of all. The man to whom we know the solid body electric guitar and rock and roll as we know it. The late last Paul."

" But yeah. Current means. No events religions."

" Lewis hall -- for the late last fall from New Jersey is up next more of our debate Long Island versus New Jersey who has the better music -- take your calls in a moment and then later. Raised in New Jersey -- Salerno Sonnenberg was once known as the bad girl of the violin will hear about her latest title maestro. And here -- latest record. Next --"

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" Back when MTV actually played music videos. Production value was quite important because people -- watching on big TV and now everything's on YouTube. Through watching a music video of this big for your Washington on your iPhone. For the production value. Production doesn't really mean anything anymore what's important is the idea. I mean think of something like okay go video -- on the treadmills. No production values just a static camera and a bunch of treadmills but the idealist so clever it was a great music video."

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" This famous old blue eyes came at a Hoboken, New Jersey so Long Island. -- you that this -- sound check and John -- today were taking you to the shores of Long Island and the garden state. In a fight for the best musical legacy our best to lend again -- from Newsday and two bronze from WS and in Jersey City. And we wanna know on which musical scene in which musical CU swim or sound -- listeners you can call us. Q1 2433. WNYC. 4339692. Or leave a comment on the website at wnyc.org. -- You know it's been very sporting of -- not to bring up Frank Sinatra so far -- The guy came at a New Jersey and always had that kind of."

" With -- Jersey about him that order or better or worse if not -- to him. It ago. Now that the Long Island is Hall of Fame would counter with Tony Bennett but again word that's queens. Again and and so I I will look -- but I -- Tony Bennett is still Tony Bennett walked down the street Astoria and everything stopped --"

" Before we get to phones you mentioned. You know that the baseball analogy that the lineups in your -- you know -- out your major leaguers here you mentioned the farm team. What's what's cooking in Long Island I mean who is the youngsters coming up."

" Well there's there's the -- don't post Emo bands that came out a couple of years ago Taking Back Sunday. Brand -- stimulate -- they've moved on to kind of did their headlining Arenas now so they've grown up there's in the U bunch of neo folk kids that are. Coming up around and that's dogs that are. Starting to make their name and I'm political like you know what what the kids listening to the pop stuff. The pop stuff. We have Ryan Starr who is now on Atlantic. Who was on that. Were. Mark Burnett rock star reality show. And then there's. And in the -- the -- in the clubs this here is concise -- from Melville. Her single feel you feel your love is on every station and including this one."

" All that's not okay -- and seeing me. He's been in the we'll I think --"

" Comer Jim -- feel your love is the name of this than dazzling kimbo was telling us it's -- clubs getting lots of radio play as well. Two New Jersey what it what is your musical comeback when it comes to like pop music that the kids are listening to."

" Leo man intently on the seats and and you know kids and well you know okay. Here's the summit county it -- Leo it's on top definitely would deal would tango and accounts to blame but we've also got. Delete -- escape plan and boorish act. Eight an android."

" Would about the Jonas Brothers what did you express. Our monster. Monster. And and they too you have a couple of actually we have the clips that this is this is how we roll these days until. The Jonas Brothers."

" Those days and had -- that he isn't the lone man I never thought that that did hey good news. He didn't. Do it."

" It's just --"

" The Jonas Brothers from Jersey and throw him. But that's. But that's that's. Oh the things that sound checks Mac fans will lead us to. -- let's let's let's see what some are centric listeners have to say and I actually joining us on the line is -- per Mel leading composer of his generation and the guy who. Knows he's music and and Derek you know what we've been smacking around these two areas what do you think."

" You know I just. John I've got away and I I'd love to win -- classical thing -- it -- got a first weigh in on the on the on the outside just -- this Springsteen Billy Joel battle right well a -- keep taking a long term. -- journal all the way there's no question that he's a much much better songwriter Bruce Springsteen had a great performer. I mean but let's take some iTunes songs -- Miami 2017 Allentown piano -- Cold Spring Harbor only the good die young uptown girl I mean. Bruce Springsteen can't touch it as a songwriter I mean he's a great -- term he's you know he's -- but he'll never be. In fifty years people piecing Billy Joel's songs they will not be sinkers Springsteen's -- how. I mean look at Jersey girl without Tom Waits around."

" But but but but at."

" On and on I mean Billy Joe yet he crashed his car. You know what you know what everyone -- job but -- that he was great great great songwriter was was. Well I mean I don't know what he's been doing great now ready classical music actually -- You know he is an extraordinary extraordinary musician and I think you know a lot of these problems have just been. Because of you know the tabloids are kind of thing but extraordinary power and easy easy. The great American songwriter you know he can't I mean you have The Beatles are great too but you know broad perspective I mean not -- he's he's tops you know he's he's up there."

" that is definitely running counter to a number of the comments that I've been seeing on the of the sound check page of our website at wnyc.org. -- let me double check that with -- Meyer in the control room jolt."

" Well Evan from New York John points to a new Jersey's nightlife but that this is an interest in comedies have yet to go to New Jersey even on clubs the stone pony in Maxwell's. And Long Island has watt. Also it's a family affair on the website as well someone named Jerry -- explains just want to throw the whole thing out he says honestly let's just stay with England that's where the good stuff comes from but if we need to stay in the states then Detroit. Bob from Huntington offers up these four words Harry Chapin Harry Chapin and so Long Island partisan but Chris from New Jersey has just one word. Danzig. Act and who finally Andrew B from New York City writes in to say Nassau County has the great rock band blue oyster cult's. More -- well."

" Is classic bit Long Island Iraq from blue oyster cult and down. To run -- you mentioned. A sort of a budding classic earlier when asked about kids you US to Ted Leo who guesses for slightly older kids but."

" You know Ted Leo and the pharmacists seal a tango I mean that's that there -- they've been sort of leading the charge in the of the Indy wave."

" You know we we think of of Williamsburg Brooklyn you know New York. A lot of that happening in Jersey too."

" You know I. That that's really tough to compare but he he of course I mean it's obvious that does decide that everything to US Brooklyn -- he'd make up of."

" You know. A whole different it."

" But to the people from -- the United States but I I will say you know what -- of obesity. Folks sitting in that the Brooklyn seen it Paterno was actually. -- future people -- and capturing you know grow up here."

" From BAA -- Well we're we're gonna give Ted Leo the last worried oh we've we've been -- Mac and down both the Jersey shore as Long Island in our sound -- smackdown this week. -- pop music writer for Newsday super on radio host at WF venue in Jersey City. Thanks to both of you for being with us on this summer's day. You're welcome and still to come violinist Nadia Salerno Sonnenberg was raised in Jersey but has since played around the globe shall talk about leaving her own orchestra in the Bay Area. Tomorrow on the show a look at Leonard Bernstein's political activism and how it attracted the scrutiny of the FBI and Richard Nixon tomorrow on --"

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