" Hi this is Brian where you're listening to WNYC on demand. Podcasts streaming in MP three downloads are available when you want to listen at WNYC dot org and iTunes."

" WNYC on demand is supported by data -- managed hosting services providing application management hosting professional services security services and complaints solutions for mid market and fortune 1000 enterprises data -- dot com."

" Now to filmmakers behind the new movie that's opening tonight. Downtown -- the quad cinema it's called take out. And it deals with the subject of Hollywood doesn't pay a lot of attention to the lives of Chinese food deliveryman. Specifically this film is about the life of one man mating game. Who is making deliveries on the upper west side of Manhattan and he gets to deal with New Yorkers like there."

" What are. Okay."

" Again I ordered BB. Yeah if you don't need. He can go back there in my mind that you want to act that yeah. Beat people you know go --"

" and quickly it is because -- opening -- and doesn't come with 800 dollars that same day. In the plot of this movie his smuggling debt will be gobbled so hear another talk of at this our Sean baker. And she -- true decode directors have taken out you may know Sean baker is one of the creators of the series Greg the Bunny. Which began on fox and then moved to the Independent film channel channel social and baker and she came to welcome to WNYC hello hey -- good so the New York Times called take out. 24 with general chose chicken. You like that and now additional."

" They do it say yeah it's definitely a a race against the clock -- countdown it it's they it's a dramatic. Plot driven movies sort of disguised in a neo realist style like it is not a documentary about delivery man this is fiction film. Exactly it's a documentary style with."

" And -- The deliveryman character has to pay off 800 dollars on his smuggling and that's just in contrast she -- how much did you have to pay and in total to be -- smuggled into the country."

" Seeking his case it was 50000 dollars and is the prices you know the nonfiction world. What an odd thing is certainly and we shot this film back in December of 20035 years ago right now. And that was going at the time we we've we've heard it's gone out to around seven and it's only getting at least now. Yep it's been along Margaret that's the life -- I mean that's who -- it worked with in small Independent -- anti -- trouble finding distributor. What's really yes it just. We did very well and that festival circuit film festival circuit. And we had a few distributors and fortunately fallout or at some. Foreign sales -- that. It just eventually -- stuff didn't happen or something basically. Taboo pictures so eventually saw the film and from the first time he saw it. They were really in love with it in and that's -- dream to find a distributor who loves your."

" And in today's times you've got a rave I'll read it it says forget sex in the city the closed maybe -- in the -- sake but for my money. I'll -- more I promised takeout is the season's freshest most sympathetic movie about making your way in modern day Manhattan Manhattan with a little help from your friends are you smiling."

" He couldn't mending fashion choices that -- better than -- and yeah I'm Makoni -- Is remaining games and has its significance in its meaning."

" actually meaning Kubiak tomorrow so the name said -- hopeful. As technical point and I you know apple tomorrow hope with."

" Is it really possible to make 800 dollars and tapes and one night as he is charged to do with instant -- film. How how many deliveries would you have to make -- actually -- the film begins with him being -- rudely awakened by two. -- collectors. Me they say 800 dollar -- to immediately he runs out and get whatever he can from family and friends. Which totals up to around six so he's left between 15200 collect by the ended with a drama literally. -- and basically that's doubling his daily rate."

" Some of the most appalling things in this film as reflected in the clip we play it. -- things done by the New Yorkers grooming delivers two at best it's a cursory interaction at worst its customers on our. Racist self involved. Verbally abusive treating him like -- an animal like we heard in that clip and I know it's the case I have seen it myself. So when you reach researched this what was this one of the points that you wanted to make."

" Well actually -- actually follow that we'll take out. You know we follow -- live in the US and and -- how -- hiding behind him trying to see what that normally actually he. Yet it during the research process. So that's how we really wants who. Like C with a different reactions so sometimes goes on -- that wouldn't we will listen I hold that got hundred perceived bad and most people. You know pretty nice."

" We shot approximately fifty deliveries with with actors. We do we put out today an ad on Craig's list actually. And we said. Which like being an Independent movie it's so weak in we like come to your -- way. Hugh Q -- approximately twenty minutes interacting with -- actor. We will provide you with five dollars and its dvd. As long as you can assign a town relief and location and that we set out which had about fifty of these we edited down to. -- money in those interactions the delivery men were actors but the people being delivered to real well they were around. Viewers some were aspiring actors I mean -- read this ad on Craig's list so. They thought it would be fun and they wanted to participate and they were acting obviously in the scene we we -- it -- we got there we would sort of get to know the person and they and we you'd say okay let's go this direction with this and."

" And the film also has some pretty depressing things to say about race relations because not only that. Too many of the customers. Racist toward the delivery person but the Chinese delivery men sitting around talking among themselves. Also make comments like which black guy number 100 who knows."

" Yeah there's definitely that undertone in the film because we. We did a lot of we were actually hanging out at this Chinese takeout restaurant for a month before shooting. Collecting be rolled doing research talking to the men and we saw that. There was definitely that aspect there and we didn't want to harp on it but we definitely wanted to at least touch on that issue."

" He shot mostly at a restaurant that and stamina 103 yes out of place. Place -- many times too because I used to live I have stamina 105. You remember it and I -- they -- exactly exactly well -- it is shut down since we shot there. Oh really ranks until they got to the west you Sean take out to anyone in the Chinese immigrant community and get a reaction."

" While we actually we were in like -- ten to fifteen not ten to fifteen in the Sharon I Asian American compress the most. And most in a week that I really good response on -- on that group. But like give real meal in my grand group we have a -- is because you know gas would be rated BC. They only have a need."

" We're hoping -- yeah this release. -- get to see it however there was an interest -- story that happened when we showed this film at the New York Asian American film festival. I wasn't able to attend teaching was there alone. And when you say what happens to."

" I had it was a young she after the screening she opposed me she says. While I cannot believe finally somebody's making -- about this because I myself I I was smile bullying. And I Ellis aren't as they must vote right and it was really typical type of me and and I really happy act act opted American family and not I I got to go to school I I really want to make known to. So that listen VV positive he's."

" And the Chinese delivery people depicted in the film. Talk about now entering the US has changed since 9/11 being entered through Canada someone else came in on a boat off the California coast and others are applying for asylum and still others are trying to scrape up. 40000 dollars to bribe an American citizen to marry -- right."

" Yeah a lot that that happens he can. And Charles Jiang who plays mating game. Interest in through this you really actually Korean American he is and we actually did not know that clearing the -- audition. We he came in he read he was great he just complete the embodied. The that vulnerability that we needed for this character and is seen as he left. Now I don't know Mandarin and so that's you know we were co directing at a chi Ching is looked gives me -- weird look. And she turns to her brother who is helping us out at the time to think where's he from. We can't figure out his accent. And I guess teaching you you thought that perhaps he was from some strange province some small province or something like that in the he has -- extinct Paxson. As -- light Beijing Jackson is not right talented writer and I yeah and then after. When we called we had a call back we said we're definitely interested in using you we want to have one more addition. And he said okay guys but I have to tell you you know I'm I'm Korean American that and that he he'd learn Mandarin while studying abroad in Taiwan for a year. The eternal authenticity question didn't trouble you. Now -- off he can the accent as as they said you know they couldn't exactly figure out which where he was in China -- He could represent somebody from anywhere and you."

" And in different kind of authenticity of the woman who plays big sister in the film. Wearing timely who's also a real restaurant worker I guess she is so amazing we actually met when we had been researching the wrist shot and we will have live for one month before the -- because that action shooting and we in our weekly talks every day should be cannot -- friendly liked you know -- fact and then when we really like casting we we say we have to -- so we accept a couple of times she exposed she won't she refused she sell Latin beauty Shai -- on to -- him. But in -- we got a solution to the issue and she -- patted Greek and she was such a natural act."

" She just opened up she started acting and by the end of the issue we she was delivering our lines that we had written for her and she she's if she's the type of person who's just that the ultimate find. For Independent neo realist painters like that's real it's just incredible so. She's the one non professional who's -- takes a lead role in the."

" We're on the Senate time by a comment from a webpage actions are -- stories -- news reports about how many restaurants actually force the delivery people to hand over the tips they make. And some go so far is -- even -- them to make sure they're not holding out on handing over the tips what can be done to stop it as a listener. Can neither of you confirm that that actually goes on in her experience."

" The the restaurant workers the delivery men that we talked to at the restaurant that we did research that they were keeping it. They had of probably of very low daily daily income. But that fifteen seconds. What do you hope comes of this film. Other than that you both -- incredibly rich and moved well you know this is this small little Independent and -- is much support as possible to get the just to get people aware. Of the situation out there and to really should human humanize these guys out there. That was playing at the -- sentiments we hope that everybody can command the."

" Clinton is beginning tonight. Take out director Sean baker and she turned to thank you both very much thank you think Kramer WNYC. Thanks for listening to WNYC on demand please check out our other programs at WNYC dot org or on iTunes. This free service is made possible by our listeners become a member of WNYC today"